This is modern mindset the show will be discussed the psychology and emotion of Finance and business I’m your host Adam Cox and joining me today is Matt Kendell who is an IE MT trainer and public speaker welcome to the show hello how you doing today very well indeed very well thanks for joining us and first of all I.
Guess the key question is ie MT what is that well IMT is very similar to EMDR which people probably.
Don’t know either op IMT is an eye movement therapy it stands for integral integral eye movement therapy or technique it’s essentially it’s a tool and it’s also a way of working and it helps people to be brought out of negative experiences from their past it helps.
People to update their identity so essentially it helped people – it works brilliantly.
On things like anxiety it does not work on emotion but what through the whole basis of IMT is this it does not work on emotion it works on the memory that is.
The emotion so say if somebody feels guilty all the time or unhappy or anxious or.
Not an emotion actually that’s.
An overstimulation nervous system it tends to come from guilt or panic or or anger so say somebody’s got say somebody’s got a temper you find out how strong that feeling.
Is then you regress it to when they felt the first time the remember feeling that way and then you then apply the eye movements on that sensitizing memory and then you’re trying to recalibrate what the problem is you’re trying to reconstruct the problem and every time you’re trying to reconstruct it you’ll find it’s changed a bit so then we’ll take the feeling what’s new now and.
– and the first started that way essentially it’s like deconstructing a cocktail of emotion so you’re going back so each.
Problem that you’ve faced will tend to have like about three or four sensitizing events that we take the client back to and you shouldn’t begin to process and then there’s no outcome to it it’s an exploration of the problem and you tend to get one of two changes either a change in the sub modalities so imagine that the first memory or when.
You access a memory is like subjective so it’s like you’re there it’s nine out of ten in strain it’s clear is in focus and it’s a movie that’s likely.
To become objective which means you’re seeing it from a different perspective.
It’ll feel further away in space and in.
Time because what happens you get age progression it’ll be less colorful you might not be able to get it at all it’ll drop in significance and the other thing that can also happen is a change of meaning so because what happens is that say that something happened to you when you are seven years old when you’re accessing.
That memory you’re regressing to that age as you’re accessing it what IMT allows you to do to allows you to go back and view that memory as you are today and when you view it from as you are today it changes it so a good example is that one of my favorite films growing up was Terminator 2 Terminator 2 I used to watch when I.
Was like 14 15 and the effects were amazing the story was absolutely great I actually watched it a couple of months ago and I was like what what’s this it looked cheap and tacky and ins but the thing is when I thought about Terminator 2 I don’t think about it as a 37 year old watching I think about is.
A 15 year old watching it so when I watched it now it looked completely different and it meant something very different to me that has not changed but I have so when I access it now or what and I watched it now it meant something completely different and so that’s what IMT is really based on it basically is about going back to these sensitizing memories and processing.
Them so the change can occur and essentially what this means is that in your present day your decisions are now based on the information in front of you not because of the emotional connection to things and also you learn a lot about yourself because you probably don’t know what these sensitizing memories are hmm so going back to these things you actually learn an awful lot about yourself as well things have changed in between and it does sound remarkably similar.
To EMDR which you know for those people that aren’t familiar with that has applications in things like PTSD and things like that because quite often people will relive the very moment that caused the trauma so.
It completely associated and it give than the ability to actually move on from that that that key then it really does that what a couple of the differences are.
Because we do get quite this question a lot one of the main differences between EMDR and IMT is that I EMT doesn’t just work on memory it works on the emotion and you regress that the kinesthetic response to take it back to how you learned how to feel this way and then you work on that memory with.
I with the MDR you you know what you’re working on straightaway plus from what I believe with the MDR you construct a picture to represent that thing with IMT you actually work on.
What the memory is so if it’s a movie it’s a movie if it’s a seizure pitch it’s.
A series of pictures plus there’s no belief system work in IE MT with the MDR you think of the I think you think about the belief you want or what the belief is I’m not quite sure with IMTS what’s the problem hold the problem it’s got nothing to do with positivity or or trying to change.
Something or trying to change something from a negative to a positive belief it just works on the negative and I guess using phrases like sub modalities you know having an idea of NLP and the differences to pay attention in terms of internal representations probably helps if you’re working with people.
To notice what’s changed in terms of how they’re perceiving that that thought well it’s IMT is very much about recalibrating so cuz things people don’t know how to measure their experience.
But with IMT it’s very precise if something is a movie feels a strength of nine out of ten is so subjective and it’s clear well if it changes to being five out of ten is objective it was a movie now as a pitch you.
Can actually be very precise on how that’s changed and you’re teaching the clients have had it because the things they might say it’s still there it’s still.
There but it’s massively different hmm what one of the things that I find quite fascinating with you is that you’re in.